LIL INTERNET: It's a fraud. It's a total fraud. The biggest smack dealers on the planet are the Sacklers. The War on Drugs is a total fraud. And it puts more black men in prison and gets more black men killed than any other thing and fuels this entire private prison industry. The stocks of the biggest private prison conglomerate went up by 20% when Trump got elected, I wonder why? Because they just anticipated there'd be more fucking people put in jail. It's a racket. It's a fraud. And it should be a focus of this time right now, if you actually want real reform in the police and the justice system. And I don't think abolish police and abolish prisons is a useful thing to call for especially, looking at what happened to Ahmaud Arbery, who was shot and killed by non-police.

Daniel Keller: I mean, one argument I've heard in favor of it is basically, if you switch to private security forces, no companies or rich people would invest in policing poor black neighborhoods, they would be defending their own stuff. And so they would have some sort of knock-on effect of less police brutality against black people, because you'd let the market decide.

LI: Snowcrashification…

DK: Yeah, I mean, that seems crazy to me. And I think there's a lot of good elements about community policing. But, I think you mentioned it before, you know, looking at Hassids have their own kind of private police force. That allows them to just circumvent laws and things that, you know, like we all agree on like that pedophilia and incest are wrong, you know. They just don't prosecute those crimes, because they kept them in the community. It allows all sorts of illegal things. And so unless you really want to move towards a patchwork situation and abandon the universal entirely, I think there's some issues to that.